Alien
Abductions
There are countless
stories of humans having experienced visits from beings coming through the walls and
windows of their homes. Taking them from their beds or making them involuntarily walk
outside in a trancelike manner. Most of these cases have been discovered after hypnosis or
recurring dreams.
Through
the studies of many prominent doctors these reports have been affirmed that these people
were not and are not imagining these things. There are countless stories of
humans having experienced visits from beings coming through the walls and windows of their
homes. Taking them from their beds or making them involuntarily walk outside in a
trancelike manner. Most of these cases have been discovered after hypnosis or recurring
dreams. Through the studies of many prominent doctors these reports have been
affirmed that these people were not and are not imagining these things.

- As we have all read and seen through media and books these
people have grown to despise the aliens behind these events beyond imagination. First we
must try to understand why these abductions are taking place. Also keep in mind that these
people are being placed back where they were safely and virtually unharmed.
- Why? There must be a reason for this.
-
- Next, we must empathize with these people for going through the
torment of these experiments being conducted on them let alone the fear they must live
with this for the rest of their lives. The fear of being revisited and to have to relive
the event again surely is something that wouldnt be wished upon by anyone. According
to many experts like, John Mack, the Harvard psychologist, researchers David Jacobs and
Bud Hopkins as well as author Witley Streiber these aliens mostly come from the Zeta
Retiuli culture. (greys). These beings come from a dying race that are experimenting on
genetics to further their reproductive capabilities. Theyre also some that say that
these creatures extract a fluid from the human brain that is used for recreational
purposes. This fluid is extracted at the time that the human is going through emotional
distraught. Fear, anxiety, etc.
-
- These creatures must pose some threat to humanity. What success
they have had with the genetic experiments has probably already come to be. These beings
have not stopped yet though and for what reasons? We believe some people know. Some people
being the government of our own country.
-
- Some experts claim that the government has made a trade
off with these aliens. abductions for technology). Now ,there are other types of
abductions. These of course being where people have been approached by some kind of craft.
Reportedly seeing beams of light coming from an unidentified flying object hovering above
their vehicle thus rendering it useless and taken aboard these craft only to be explored
by beings with scary looking instruments. Many of these reports (under hypnosis) have said
that there were little Grey beings, some taller ones, and even humanoids simultaneously
conducting these experiments!
- Now what were humanoid beings doing in those craft?
-
- Are they part of this mass abduction scheme? What is their
involvement with the Greys? MILAB (MILITARY ABDUCTIONS). These are some of the fears we
have.
- There is more to it than just aliens. Someone wants us to
believe that only extraterrestrials are responsible for these abductions. Some other
experiments are taking place and we must find out.
- By Sonny Salas
-
-
- Exclusive Interview

-
-
- Interview: Jimmy Holman
- Jimmie is an abduction researcher from Plano TX. and the
founder of UFON.
-
-
- SETLAB: How
many abduction cases are there and how many have you studied?
-
- Jimmie: I must first begin by
stating that "abductee" may not be the best
- Word to describe these phenomena. Even after years however
I
myself have
- not come up with any thing better or more appropriate. So
with
that said
- I will now ALSO use that word to reference these "events"
till they are
- better figured out or explained. I doubt that ANY person can
seriously come
- up with a real or reliable number here. The main reason for this is
because
- I dont think we have really "defined" the word
abduction. Additionally
- there is no uniform method for reporting or consolidation of such
info. What
- may be happening may be something much more complex ***THAN*** we are
- capable of
- comprehending with the references and education we have grown up
with. The
- subject may not even have enough information at his disposal to
recognize an
- event. ***I THINK THIS IS PROBABLE MORE THE NORM AND THE REASON
ESTIMATING A
- SPECIFIC NUMBER IS DIFFICULT*** As for a particular number of cases
- studied
this would be very
- difficult if not dangerous to mention. The collection and archival of
this
- Type of serious information seems dangerous if any of the myths and
legends
- are to be believed. I because of personal experience which I
dont care to
- go into here; tend to believe at least part of those
"myths". I will state
- without reluctance that the majority of my "case studies"
have been Internet
- based or local to the Dallas/Ft. Worth/North Texas area. My
observation
- over time has allowed to better understand not only myself through
what
- others are trying to convey. If nothing else, it has taught me
tolerance
- and to me more open in my interpretation and reception of
others views.
- But
- most importantly
it indicates without a doubt
there are
MANY MANY people
- out there with the very same questions, experiences, scars, marks,
dreams,
- anxieties, phobias, and similarities
who need a forum in which
to discus
- and compare and gain additional RESPONSIBLE information free from
ridicule
- and suppression
. And work with others on these remarkable
"puzzles".
- [The word puzzle will make more sense in the closing]
-
- SETLAB: Is there a reason why these abductions
are taking place?
-
- Jimmie: I suspect the reasons are
wide and varied from person to person but
- may even vary somewhat from event to event. The "WHO"
initiating the
- Abduction may play an important part in this answer as well. It is my
- opinion that some events are followed up by another group checking up
on or
- investigating what another group has done. The "follow-up"
may be more
- human based or even "government based" trying to find out
what "ET" wanted
- to know. *** (MY PERSONAL OPINION IS THIS WOULD REPRESENT A VIOLATION
OF
- HUMAN RIGHTS SECOND TO NONE *** All the induced lies and deception
and
- compartmentalization are
- very similar to methods and protocols practiced by even out own
intelligence
- Agencies and are ASLO the most likely reason the abductee remains so
- confused. The confusion and isolation seems obviously VERY
intentional and
- a necessary ingredient to continued operation. Admittedly, some of
the
- confusion and memory loss may actually come from the subject
themselves as a
- self-protective method of suppressing their own trauma
be it
real or
- implanted. The same scenario and details and responses however appear
in
- person after person.
-
- SETLAB: Are these selected individuals or are
they randomly picked?
-
- Jimmie: I absolutely do NOT
believe these are random acts. Just from one of
- the support groups I belong to, I myself see patterns and
similarities among
- the affected participants. For the most part I find most of them well
- educated, articulate, spiritual (not to be confused with religious),
and
- mentally VERY VERY stable and logical. The "problem" they
have (thus the
- reason for the support group) is that there are few places where they
can
- discuss these issues with others who understand or have suggestions
or
- answers or even knowledge of the subject.
- In one particular case I am personally and maybe too closely involved
with,
- the similarities of the individual are so detailed and many, (even
- specific), you might think they are identical twins or grew up in at
least
- the same household. The truth is
the age difference is at
least 20 years,
- several hundred miles between them, and they had never any contact
between
- them
. Until one day! They both knew immediately something was
"really"
- remarkable although it took time to sort things out. I have never
seen any
- two people work so well together. I have never seen anyone that could
better
- be described as "clones" or that operated mentally on such
the "same
- wavelength".
- Most of my observations have been that the individuals are although
alike in
- many ways
they are apparently also UNIQUE as well. My personal
opinion is
- that this "difference" is of great interest. From a
scientific standpoint,
- if you were say doing genetic engineering (as some claim), ***I WOULD
- THINK*** it would not be similarities that would be of interest
it would
- be the differences
and understanding HOW those differences
came about so
- they can be corrected or duplicated. In EITHER case
they NEED
to be
- understood. Simply speaking
if you take a subset or group of
specifically
- targeted individuals and repeatedly examine the group for differences
while
- remaining within that group
. THAT to me clearly indicates that
what we are
- observing or experiencing is not so much curiosity
but rather
a
- specifically controlled "lab type" environment
.. on
an enormous scale!
-
-
- SETLAB: Lets talk about implants.
-
- Jimmie: OK !!!! Sure
why
not!
Ill tell what I can!
-
- SETLAB: Do all abductees receive implants?
-
- Jimmie: I dont think so.
Again, I am not sure we can be exactly sure what
- an implant IS or the purpose it performs. I doubt that we would even
- recognize some if it were handed too us or we were looking at it
simply
- because our understanding is admittedly quite limited. I believe we
are
- getting a really close as to some of these answers though. The advent
and
- utilization of the Internet to build a network of reliable quiet
- communicators is definitely having an impact of the sharing and
comparing of
- responsible information. The information is beginning to get to get
into the
- right hands so hopefully it can be determined and tested whether a
person
- actually has a device or not
IF it is an important issue.
****SITES AND
- ORGANIZATIONS LIKE UFON (www.ufon.org) AND SETLAB (www.setlab.org)
ARE PERFECT EXAMPLES OF COOPERATIVE SYMBONIC RELATIONSHIPS THAT
WILL BENEFIT THOSE WHO REALLY NEED AND CAN USE THE INFO.
-
-
- SETLAB: What do these implants look like?
-
- Jimmie: Probably the very best
person to turn to for an answer on this question is Derrel Sims. He probably has the best collection of
artifacts that exists (whatever they might be). I have of course examined many
of his collection but I can only "testify" to my own. Of my
apparently 4 devices located in my body at different times in my life, I have actually
only
- actually "seen" one which I removed myself in a panic one
morning. Omitting the very gory details of removal, it was a dull gray metallic ball.
This, by the way, corresponded to a type I was later to find out was
already catalogued by Mr. Sims and was very likely to be found in that
specific area. (The general descriptions given in his catalog corresponded to
the "others" and their locations as well) He really seems to
know what he is talking about
but then .. it was HE who really got this
implant issue off the ground despite what distractions you may be hearing on the TV and
radio. We often disagree on ***SOME*** things (mostly
because we are attacking the issues from different perspectives)
I quietly give him a very hard time on these
issues
but in the long run .. I think we probably come to the
same conclusions
just sometime for different reasons.
-
- SETLAB: What is their purpose?
-
- Jimmie: The simplistic
explanation that these are "tracking devices" is
- probably just that
WAY TOO simplistic
and probably
inaccurate as well. I
- havent seen ANYTHING to support that claim. I personally
dont know any
- abductees or persons I refer to as an abductee that believes that
either.
- Personally, I dont think it has anything to do with tracking at
all.
- Instead, I believe it more likely has a use as an "assist
device" for the
- "handler" to use on relatively "problem
cases"
. Much like a "shock collar"
- might be used by a dog trainer who has neither the time nor the
patience to
- deal with a problem dog. That in itself is probably also a rather
simplistic
- example because the modification induced is probably/apparently much
more
- complex.
but
. Not as abstract as one might think. My
personal research
- is indicating that the devices are apparently capable of assisting as
a
- conduit to the persons own
- nervous system and communicating with it on a very basic level in the
bodys
- own language so to speak. An example may be to request endorphin
production
- or other neurotransmitters that can have profound effects on the
subjects
- state of consciousness and/or perceptions. Can this be effectively?
- demonstrated ?
. ABSOLUTELY !!! It may take quite a bit of
background for
- an observer to correlate some of the technologies that are going on
or being
- demonstrated here. The fact that the technologies apparently have
been
- around for some time but have been suppressed, purchased, restricted
or
- otherwise "buried" was something I personally found
surprising (Im not a
- big conspiracy buff)
but I found irrefutable evidence no doubt
that it is
- indeed going on one way or another. Rather than expending energies
"fighting
- the system"
. I think it much more productive to utilize
the information
- we do have to discover the reasons for the suppression, the leaks,
the
- persons involved, etc.
cause there is a LOT more usable
info there !
- There are a LOT of "good" "QUIET" people out
there. If it could be developed
- or found once
most likely it can be found again
especially if it is the
- target of your interest or focus.
-
-
- SETLAB: What analysis has been done on these
objects?

-
- Jimmie: Derrel Sims, (not Roger
Lier) is probably again the best person to
- ask on these issues. I will be more than happy to get you in contact
with
- him. These days he is getting harder and harder to get to as he is
becoming
- quite busy in both South America and Eastern Europe. I do seem to get
- through to him when others cant. While I have been involved my
self with
- personal experimentation, and in making referrals for individuals and
labs
- to be involved in specific testing
I have been also very
careful to keep
- myself OUT of the loop on certain issues and testing also. I would
not be
- able to discuss privileged knowledge regarding testing not
specifically
- initiated or solely "owned" by myself. I believe you can
understand this.
- Testing done properly without corruption or contamination is an
absolute
- must for obtaining accurate information that can be utilized. Until
that is
- out on the table for view .. it is only speculation rather than a
resource.
- That is why it is so important that this be done carefully.
- My personal testing/experimenting is partially described a bit
elsewhere in
- this interview.
-
- SETLAB: Why are these abductees being
implanted?
-
- Jimmie: I am going to take it
that there is some emphasis on the word
- "these"? As mentioned elsewhere
I believe the
implants are more of an
- assist device or tool so I wont go into that here but rather
address the
- area of the person themselves. My observation so far, is that there
is
- something quite unique about the person. While ALL persons are
"unique"
- there is something "different" about the physiology or
mental processes of
- that individual that makes them different. This may not always be
- apparent
but seems to be of specific interest. As you might
suspect
- testing people for this sort of thing in large numbers can be
incredibly
- expensive, time consuming, but obviously best NOT left to government
to
- collect and disseminate. This issue is developed more elsewhere in
this
- interview.
-
- SETLAB: How many times have the same people
been abducted?
-
- Jimmie: I think this probably
varies from person to person
but the best
- answer is "almost NEVER just once". Apparently, a one-time
abduction is
- very rare. It also appears that it is unusual for a person to
remember all,
- if any, of their abductions.
-
- SETLAB: How long has this been going on?
-
- Jimmie: Obviously
throughout
recorded history. From the bible to ancient
- cave drawings, across virtually every culture, ***THE PHENOMONA
*** is obvious this has been with us a very long time. Virtually
- every culture on earth has references
- and foundations in these topics.
-
- SETLAB: What have your studies determined?
-
- Jimmie: Well
that this stuff is
ABSOLUTELY ***NOT*** magic. Physics and
- science is behind this stuff
even though it may not yet be
known,
- understood, or easily and readily available. With that in mind
we must
- also consider the fact that at our level of mental development, we
may not
- yet be able to fully comprehend the necessary aspects to form an
accurate
- assessment of an event. An example of this might be equated to
looking at a
- trip to the vet, where it is taken to a remote place with strange
- people/uniforms/smells/equipment, where it is poked, prodded,
examined,
- injected, has all sorts of indignities performed then returned to the
- familiar surroundings of its home. What does this scenario seem
like from?
- a DOGs point of view? Is the dog actually capable of realizing
the overall?
- concept here. Are WE likewise being placed in a very similar
scenario?
- My personal research has been more in the direction of describing the
events
- in more physical terms
specifically meaning
with our
current "physics".
- I have found that there IS much of this described, patented, and
- reproducible. I have also found attempts at discouraging evolution of
such
- technologies if not downright suppression. I have even, I believe
uncovered
- reasons for that suppression. The fact that it is able to occur
SHOULD be
- criminal *** WAYS*** need to be found around that
and
- allow persons to develop thoughts and processes without restriction.
I (and
- others) plan on proceeding along that route regardless
even
though much
- may have to be done "quietly". I know and understand now
that many aspects
- of the "UFO research" must unfortunately be performed in
privacy until such
- time this situation is either corrected or the opportunity presents
itself
- for the safe and un-corruptible dissemination of that info or
distracting if
- not devastating ridicule of the individuals involved. With the advent
of
- the Internet that time and place has grown much nearer.
- Approx. 2 years ago I became intrigued with a very narrow area of an
- Electro-medicine called Rife Technology. My interest in it came 95%
out of
- my investigation of implant technology. I must admit that the reason
I gave
- in my paper (searching for a cheep TENS unit), on the website was
much more
- "down to earth". The similarities in the specific
"flavor" of Rife I
- utilize bears remarkable similarities in what "abductees"
seem to describe
- as effects before, during, and after an event. Although a much more
- simplistic signal, TENS
a technology that any doctor,
chiropractor, even
- acupuncturist, is familiar with
clearly demonstrates that it
is possible
- to "communicate" with the bodys own system in ITS
language and receive a
- desired and KNOWN/expected response. ****YOU MIGHT WANT TO LOOK AT
- WWW.HOLMAN.NET/RIFE/.****
- Of particular interest there are other technologies and research
along these
- same lines, that are apparently not only suppressed but very
controlled via
- governmental agencies. The information is often very difficult to
acquire
- if
- not downright impossible. Deep digging and even examination of the
- relationships between the parties involved and their charters tend to
- suggest that these technologies are not only developed but in use.
This may
- be one of the contributing factors as too the clouded memories and
bizarre
- reports of "abductees". Is it misidentification or
interpretation,
- government, or ET
or maybe something else all together.***?***
It is
- really difficult to know 100%
. But by collecting and examining
and
- comparing ALL we possibly can
is the best method we have so
far in making
- sense out of all this and learning more.
-
-
-
- SETLAB: What is in store for our future and
what should we as the human race
- to better educate ourselves concerning this
phenomenon?
-
- Jimmie: READ !!!!
Search out your
interests. Dont sit and watch the
- Limited resource of mindless TV. The Internet is a good place to
start and
- There are places to find "like-minded" people who can help
direct, guide,
- And assist. Undernet Internet Relay Chat #UFO Channel is of course my
- Favorite, but there are others related channels too. Read the good,
the
- Bad, even the ridiculous
and start to THINK! The revelations
of
- Discovery, science, innovation, creation and problem solving all
start with
- That one simple word. Probably the best motto a company ever came up
with
- was IBM
. It was that one simple word. T
H I N K
- I am often asked to "prove" something. My response is to
simply say NO.
- Unlike many, I am not out to evangelize, the topic
nor is it
my purpose to
- "THINK" for someone else. Each person has his own and
changing level of
- What he considers "acceptable proof"? It is ridiculous to
assume what that
- "Level" is set to
even more ridiculous to consider
how LOW it is set for
- Some folks. I will share what information I have and will often
elaborate
- Why I have come to certain conclusions. The fact is
that many
persons
- Need to travel the same or similar route to come to the same location
or
- Reference point where I am now. I cant say where Ill be a
year or ten
- Years from now. Those other "seekers" and
"thinkers" are typically the best
- Source of information
at least in my view.
- I have often referred to these topics as similar to working a bunch
of
- Jigsaw puzzles. There are a lot of pieces (and maybe different
puzzles) in
- The table. If the pieces can be brought to the table
and
people allowed
- To look at
and work together and share
. The pictures
WILL start to
- Emerge
and relationships begin to appear. The organization
UFOn
- (Internet based) has this as a common theme. Dont mistake this
for the
- Seguin based organization
. We hope to be the thing they
apparently
- Intended to be but somehow just got lost or crushed under the weight
of
- Their own development OR not present because they simply failed to
innovate
- And evolve with the times. We will strive to keep those puzzle pieces
ON
- THE TABLE! [The organization may be a good interview as well as some
of the
- other players involved]
S.E.T.L.A.B.:Thank you for your time Jimmie it has been a
pleasure speaking with you.
S.E.T.L.A.B. Fieldwork August 1999
Possible abduction case (A meeting with The Rodrigues Family)
The S.E.T.L.A.B. team is currently working on a possible multiple abduction
case experienced by this family on Feb.1st of 1975 while in trek from Chicago to San Pedro
California The encounter started when they had apparent car failure in the California
desert. Their car had suddenly died and they didnt know what was wrong. It was near
dark and they were worried that they would be stranded in the desert. Mrs. Rodriguez
said
that immediately after the car stalled, she noticed two lights in the sky over a mountain
to the left and they were moving towards the familys vehicle. She said that she made
the comment to her family that maybe it was a police helicopter that could possibly render
aid.
Mrs. Rodriguez says that seconds after her comment that one of the lights shot
off into a large cloud and suddenly their car started again
on its own! The
other light continued its path towards them. She said that at that point she urged her
family members to get into the car because she didnt feel that it was the police any
longer. The object became more visible as it neared the car. She said that at that point
she could make out a disk shaped object with a light underneath it. The craft apparently
came directly over their vehicle and stayed above them as they drove off. This craft was
following overhead about twenty feet and followed them for a long period of time.
They claim that the size of the object would have been about twice the size of
a large automobile. The three members of the family that S.E.T.L.A.B. interviewed (Mr.,
Mrs., and the daughter) all claim witnessing the same thing. They claim that this craft
was illuminating the road and the cliffs as they continued to drive. The daughter says
that she was in the back seat looking up at this thing following them and she noticed a
trapeze type contraption come out from under the craft.
Heres the strange part; the family doesnt remember what happened
after that. All they remember is that they were at a motel parking lot. According to their
watches, it shouldve only taken them about an hour and a half from the time they
first saw the craft to the point of their destination. Their watches showed that it had
taken them about five hours to get where they had arrived. They question the loss of time
and SO do we!!
In the years to follow they claim to have had many many sightings. The family
says they get funny feelings right before a sighting. Almost like a premonition. At times
they say that they feel pains in their left foot right before a sighting. The have
witnessed cigar shaped craft, daylight disks, dancing stars (as they call them) and even
large orbs of green light. On one occasion in Mexico, Mrs. Rodriguez said that a large
craft came to hover directly above her sisters home and displayed a huge light that
lit up the entire house then vanished at the blink of an eye.
The family has agreed to allow memory regression to see if we may discover more
about their experience. Perhaps this family has been selected to be monitored. The pains
in their feet may also indicate the possibility of implants.
S.E.T.L.A.B. will keep you updated on these
findings. |